yer i know pete, n believe me over the last few days i've learned exactly what you do go through and it brought me to tears (literally) that people can be so cruel - all hosts and admin are trying to do is run a good site (WITH A FREE SERVICE DAMN YOU MORONS) for society and they just kick it back, i'm surprised the sites still goin the way ya's get treated....

so good work to everyone and well done tot hose few who do fully support the hosts/admin and WoC! n i do hope things change because it would be a shame to have to say any sort of goodbye to this place - it's become my internet home and the people on it have become my internet family

to WoC to hosts to admin to friends and family!