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Old 03-02-12, 09:42 AM
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the heroin estate and MP David Lammy quote "give kids smack"

13 years spread out is minimal,
because the crime in heroin city is criminal.
some estates are notoriously known,
but who is there only one drug emperor on the throne.
estates are well structured maze,
that's why the problem has no erase.
they all are a 24 hour bank tunnel,
crack and heroin flows on a exclusive funnel.
in garages to flats, maximum is the trade,
that still dose not guarantee the H has a good purity grade.
it cut and mixed with rat poison to flour,
will it get through your veins,dose your blood have the power.
the stair wells are where they shoot,
the give away are the needles and the lemon fruit.
muggings and attacks put into residents fear,
and they all no the solution is not near.
would legalisation on the estates hurt or crack,
a well known MP thinks we should give kids free smack.
as you can see "drug trade" on estates is thriving,
its time to supply all addicts with pure free drugs then peace to estates will be arriving.


not sure if anyone will get this poem lol when i wrote it i was HIGH lol
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Old 03-02-12, 05:30 PM
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all drugs should be legalized but they shouldn't be free lmao

If you legalize heroin, not everyone is suddenly going to say "duuuur, im going to take heroin, i need the government to take care of me"

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Old 03-02-12, 09:24 PM
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[QUOTE=Ashley11;70159]all drugs should be legalized but they shouldn't be free lmao

If you legalize heroin, not everyone is suddenly going to say "duuuur, im going to take heroin, i need the government to take care of me"

~ Ron Paul [/QUOTE]


when i say free ahsley i do mean - registered users that are addicted to it can get it from places that doctors set up - they have done trials like this before and crime drops in the area they do it - so its a no brainer to me - plus the fact all the drugs police get from raids we can use that to give it to addicts - and it will be allot safer then street heroin because we can test it for its purity - it really dose make allot on sense and would work ? but i have a feeling i will be saying this in 10 more years lol



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Old 04-02-12, 08:37 AM
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Nope, nobody should be given it free lol, even if it stopped all crime
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Old 04-02-12, 08:56 AM
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Making heroin or cocaine legal will never happen. No government wants to make a statement like that. Its not ok to take it, one mistake and your dead. Once it's legal it will be regulated and taxed, there is no way it would ever be free. The price will sky rocket leaving the black market rubbing its hands in delight. Nobody will pay an inflated price for something they can get for half on the black market. You only have to look at the black market in cigarettes and booze to know ppl don't like being ripped off.
Only the high end wealthy users would buy it, the majority of addicts who are from ordinary backgrounds would still buy the cheaper stuff from the local dealer, black market prices would go up, it will be even less affordable to the addicts leading to more crime to pay for the habit.

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Old 04-02-12, 10:22 AM
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[QUOTE=Forger;70170]Making heroin or cocaine legal will never happen. No government wants to make a statement like that. Its not ok to take it, one mistake and your dead. Once it's legal it will be regulated and taxed, there is no way it would ever be free. The price will sky rocket leaving the black market rubbing its hands in delight. Nobody will pay an inflated price for something they can get for half on the black market. You only have to look at the black market in cigarettes and booze to know ppl don't like being ripped off.
Only the high end wealthy users would buy it, the majority of addicts who are from ordinary backgrounds would still buy the cheaper stuff from the local dealer, black market prices would go up, it will be even less affordable to the addicts leading to more crime to pay for the habit.[/QUOTE]

but that's not the point. The point is the government shouldn't have the right to choose what you can and can't use.

You can use studies to prove anything is bad for you. So if you go along that route, you co uld eventually be in a situation where they can ban you from having anything they want
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Old 04-02-12, 03:38 PM
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Going down that route would lead to anarchy, chaos and eventually a complete meltdown. Without any rules you cannot control. If you make it law that there are no laws society would implode.
You can get hold of anything on the black market so you still have the choice to do whatever you want. You don't need to make up evidence for a dead overdose victim, or the very real crime figures and lives destroyed by junkies.

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Old 04-02-12, 04:52 PM
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forger - you say it would leave the black market open and more people would use ? a heroin addict is not going to a dealer that washes his heroin with rat poison and flour to make it go that bit further when he can go to a legit place and by pure hard heroin ? after all that is what they are addicted to and they will cotton on that the dealers stuff is not as good as the places which will provide it ? i think we had not to long ago a problem with fake vodka and it had killed so many people ? we still sell vodka and someone had to have the brain wave to produce fake stuff at quarter of the price and sell it on the black market ? you are never going to stop that ? but with education and after tasting the differenced in your own mouth people will cotton on that fake stuff is not as good as the real macoy there for the black market will hardly be able to suport its self.

all the money raised from it and it will be billions can go to careing for people and putting them through there own funded detox programs.(which is comming out of the cost of the state selling heroin) its a no brainer and its going to happen in the future so i say why not save time and do it now <


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Old 04-02-12, 06:35 PM
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[QUOTE=Forger;70175]Going down that route would lead to anarchy, chaos and eventually a complete meltdown. Without any rules you cannot control. If you make it law that there are no laws society would implode.
You can get hold of anything on the black market so you still have the choice to do whatever you want. You don't need to make up evidence for a dead overdose victim, or the very real crime figures and lives destroyed by junkies.[/QUOTE]

Nope, you only need laws to prevent people interfering in other's lives. If someone takes heroin it's of no impact to you therefore it should be allowed
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Old 04-02-12, 07:14 PM
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Ah ashley, you contradict yourself so much, Now we need laws to stop ppl interfering in others lives. That just about covers most of the laws we have.
A heroine addict chooses to interfere in most cases in a lot of ppl's lives, negatively.

As for ppl paying for the good stuff, you are forgetting the life of a heroine addict doesn't contain the money to buy the good stuff, hence why so much crime is commited by addicts. Any stuff is good enough, the cheaper the better.
I can't believe your both naive enough to think making class a drugs legal would be an improvement. Where on earth would these billions of pounds come from? oh yeah, the extra million heroine addicts we now have using the good stuff ontop of the existing who still use the black market.
The amount of bad heroine is tiny compared to the amount consumed. There are not multiple deaths daily from bad heroine. Therefore my point still stands.

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